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The Battle of Big Pharma..Save Yourself (Part 1) – Interview with Molly Rose

Molly Rose is a pioneer and an incredible advocate inside of the cannabis and hemp industry. She is considered to be one of the go-to lady bosses in the space for marketing, advertising and just overall building a cannabis business and have the business online. She is also known as the “Queen of Cannabis” and that’s a nickname given to her through numerous digital marketing circles as well as throughout the cannabis industry known for her marketing techniques.

In this episode, Molly tells us how she got started as a cannabis advocate, what opened her eyes to the truth about cannabis and holistic medicine. She will also share with us her experience and how she ended up becoming to go to person for cannabis marketing.

Episode Highlights:

2:56 – Molly’s backstory and how she got started being a cannabis advocate and she also tells us why she is known as the “Queen of Cannabis”

5:26 – Her mom getting ill with inflammatory breast cancer, doctors unable to diagnose her illness until meeting someone on the internet who helped in diagnosing her mother’s illness

7:45 – ‘Medical practitioners know best’ but a family who has lived a life with the sick patient knows better

8:30 – Government and medical system: a system that creates more slaves than survivalists

11:42 – Integrating holistic health to modern day medicine, the way to give total body wellness

13:59 – Medical cannabis, and how prescription medication companies put a lock on the cannabis industry

16:18 – Fighting for her mom’s life, the steps she did moving forward, why she interned at a doctor’s office

20:03 – She shared the time when they used cannabis as a treatment and how it helped her mom to live longer

37:20 – Molly explains why the fight against Big Pharma is so important and what keeps people from fighting

42:30 – She also explains why it really comes back to self-aware care and the importance of knowing that what you are putting inside your body is at the highest quality that you can have access to

45:42 – Molly shares some of the impactful of her clients, why she is committed to her cannabis advocacy every single day

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Transcript:


I am so blessed to be able to sit here with my mom right now and she’s here. But what I do want to say is I watched all of those drugs take its toll on her body and on her mind. If we had seen and we had access to micro-dosing, if we had access to more functional medicine and cannabis back then, we would have shortcutted 15 surgeries and years of, I mean she’s had to have all of her teeth replaced because of the chemotherapy and because the opiates. It would’ve allowed me to go to high school and would have allowed me to finish college. It would have allowed all of us to have family vacations instead of spending holidays in the hospital. So having that out to other people, if I can change other people’s lives, that is why I do everything I do. I’m going to get choked up cause we’re talking about it. I jump out of bed on fire because my goal every day is to throw a brick through our system and shatter it. It’s broken and we need to work together to rebuild it.Molly Rose


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Sonia Gomez: Welcome back to On The Rise podcast. I’m your host Sonya Gomez, and I’m here with my lovely guest Molly Rose, a pioneer and incredible advocates inside of the cannabis and hemp industry.

She is considered to be one of the go-to lady bosses in the space for marketing, advertising, and just overall building cannabis and have the business online. Molly Rose is here to share with you how, or with us, how she beat big Pharma, saved her own life. And I have so many stories of beating big Pharma to save our own lives. As the topic of our conversation today. Let’s give Molly Rose a big welcome. What’s up, Molly? Thanks so much for tuning in.

Molly Rose: Thank you so much for having me on. This is one of my favorite subjects, and I am just so excited to dive into it. One of the most passionate things in my life?

Sonia Gomez: So excited to hear your story. We both had been in this industry for a super long time, and I’m sure how many, many, many war stories that we can share. But why don’t we take a second to introduce yourself to our listeners, let them know who you are, what you’re up to in the industry, and how you got started here.

The Reign of the Cannabis Queen: Becoming the Go-to Person for Cannabis Marketing

Molly Rose: Perfect. So, I am Molly Rose, and I’m known as the “Queen of Cannabis,” and that’s a nickname that’s been given to me through numerous digital marketing circles as well as throughout the cannabis industry known for my marketing techniques.

My journey didn’t start there. I am so fortunate that I grew up in a family that put a very high value on holistic medicine and read into herbalists studies. We’re very well researched and knowledgeable on the cannabis industry.

So something that I grew up around, but it didn’t impact my life profoundly until I was 12 years old, and my mom was diagnosed with a very rare form of inflammatory breast cancer.

And from there I grew myself into a book. I spent the next 15 years fighting with Big Pharma, learning everything there is to know about cancer, chemotherapy as well as the pharmaceutical industry and the difference between what we have available to us in the ground as well as what we can get at our local CVS. So from that journey, I was able to help others just like myself and ended up becoming the go-to person for cannabis marketing as it’s become legalized here in California. And here we are today.

Sonia Gomez: I love it. I’m originally from California too, and that’s where my journey started with cannabis as well. Unfortunately and fortunately it was through a medical condition. And so my journey with cannabis also started in California. That’s where I’m originally from.

And I would say, fortunately, and unfortunately, that’s where most people’s journey begins. Sometimes it’s a recreational beginning, and most often as I’m starting to hear and showcase a lot more of these stories, it is some medical challenge or failure of our trusted medical system, right?

These systems, it’s a failure there that sends us down the rabbit hole of searching for our medicines are a way for us to self-heal. And unfortunately, there’s very, very few resources that are reputable and trustworthy when it comes to saving your own life or, or trying to share and save the life of a loved one.

So tell me a little bit about your story there. I know that you were immersed in the culture and you know that your family was a part of it, but have you not had that information, or foundation, how would you have even gone about finding a natural or holistic cannabis centric treatment for your mom?

“Read this email or die.” – a Random Email Diagnosis of Her Mom’s Disease

Molly Rose: You know, my road would have been a lot harder if my dad hadn’t prepaid for me. I was so, so, so unbelievably fortunate that he had so much knowledge and had done so much reading way before us ever finding out about my mom and let me take us back to December of 2016.

So it’s Christmas time, and we’re all sitting together out, and my mom gets a phone call from her oncologist. It was the most heart-wrenching situation you could ever imagine, so she had a pimple on her breasts, and it wouldn’t go away. It got a little bit larger. They thought it was a staph infection at this point. We had gone into.

Obviously, you start with your family doctor and go from there. At this point, we had been to maybe seven or eight specialists. They asked how many times she had left the country. My mom is the typical suburban soccer mom at this point. She’s got two young kids stay at home. She doesn’t travel past the baseball field was her joke. And here we are seeing this infectious disease specialist. It turns out after seeing a handful of doctors, no one could diagnose her. And our journey started on Google, which is ironic because this is where most people’s dirty start.

So it’s 2006, and we were on Google, some gentlemen saw the Google searches and things I had posted in the forum and his wife had recently passed away. So he reached out to us and said, “Read this email or die.”

You have inflammatory breast cancer, and your doctor doesn’t know that it exists and they won’t be able to diagnose you. - Molly Rose Click To Tweet

And he says you have inflammatory breast cancer, and your doctor doesn’t know that it exists and they won’t be able to diagnose you. They’ll get a punch biopsy. So we do this and fast forward to December 16th we get this phone call. I was having a party at the house, kicked everyone out, and that is smack where our journey started. So we went to several different oncologists until we found this woman who could provide treatment to my mom.

Sonia Gomez: Wait, hold on a second. You went from specialist to specialist to specialist.

Molly Rose: It’s some guy on the internet diagnosed it, and he was right.

Sonia Gomez: And to self, self-searching through Google and this random stranger contacted you and said, “Go and get this checked out.” And that’s how you found out what kind of cancer your mom had.

Molly Rose: Yeah, it was that crazy. And you know, I think that’s such an excellent highlight when we all sit and talk, we have this tendency to believe that our doctors and our medical professionals know best and a lot of ways they do. However, we forget that as advocates and as patients, we do know more about our own cases because their our cases and we tend to shine off other strangers and other people who have been through the same thing. But the truth is this gentleman knew more than every single specialist in the room because he lived it. He went there, and he was at every chemo appointment with his wife. He knew the inside and outside of this cancer.

Government and Medical System: A System That Creates More Slaves Than Survivalists

Sonia Gomez: Here’s the, there’s another really major challenge. And, and let’s take a second to look at what the challenge actually is. When it, when it comes to, you know, big Pharma or the medical system or the system, in general, is a cookie cutter model that has been presented in that we have been hand-fed for generations now fifties, sixties,seventies. We were taught and built and programmed to believe that our government and our medical system and all of the tools supplied through that chain where the end all be all in the highest possible quality.

And at one time that may have been true, but over time and the la… and you know, let’s say eighties nineties, and now into the two thousand we’re looking at a system that is considered and has been claimed to be broken, is creating more slaves than it is survivalists. And even when you are a survivor, you are now a victim of the system. You are totally and completely dependent.

You are now a victim of the system. You are totally and completely dependent.-Sonia Gomez Click To Tweet

Molly Rose: You’re always a survivor because you’re always in survival.

Sonia Gomez: Yeah. In survival mode, we’re not built to thrive anymore. And the system is not built to support us thriving in our lives. We are treated as a disease or disability, you know, organism. And that’s the claim that we have tended to take on were over-prescribed medications. We are completely dumbed down by the information that we’re provided because it’s so limited. It’s only through one scope. We’re being taught that medications are the way to patches through to make sure that we are functional, to keep, continue to serve the system that is putting us in a hole that we’re in anyways like our health.

We’re not in this on average a doctor is spending seven minutes with you in the medical space no matter what your condition is. In seven minutes, how can you hack-in what you’re feeling or experiencing mentally, physically, emotionally, what your stress level is, what your nutritional practices are? These are all major, major contributors to how you’re feeling and functioning on a daily basis. So it’s no wonder that until you come in contact with a perfect stranger who’s lived before what you’re going down. But that’s the first time that you get any, you know, useful information that can, that you only have to take back to another doctor to analyze.

Molly Rose: Exactly. It was unbelievable. And I love what you’re saying about the seven minutes because it takes longer to order a burger from the drive-through than it does to get a prescription for an opioid.

Sonia Gomez: it’s so true!

Molly Rose: It’s totally out of control.

Sonia Gomez: It’s so true.

Molly Rose: So true. Because you know, this system is designed to create customers rather than to treat patients.

And it’s very interesting to me along with what you’re saying, that it’s the physicians that are in a higher prescribing position that have a higher volume, whereas people like physical therapists and people in more occupational type positions don’t get the respect, recognition, and credit they deserve when they’re actually the ones looking at the mechanics of the body and spending half hour a week or more with these patients.

They know if they bend over a lot because they have a small dog that they give them treats too. They know the ins and outs in the functions of each patient. So I’d love to see us give more credit to functional medicine.

Sonia Gomez: Yeah, it’s a, it’s a mandatory practice to integrate and I, that’s why I love integrative medicine. Now before I say the next thing, I want you guys, those of you who are tuning in here to understand that both Molly and I can agree that traditional medicine “traditional medicine” or modern day medicine has its place. Without modern-day medicine.

You know, I would never want to go and get surgery. Don’t hand me a stick or a piece of leather divided in two while amputating my leg or give me surgery. I want the drugs put me out and give me the drugs for a week after like I’m all about it, you know, so it definitely has its place. And at the same time I think that integrating holistic health, which is the true traditional medicine integrating and the knowledge and expertise around nutrition, you know, remedies, nutritional supplements, so on and so forth is the way to give total body wellness.

Now with all of that being said, yes, great. There’s a place for everybody. I am also going to highlight something that you said, Molly, which I think is really super important information. This is a business that is built on creating customers. Customers are created through prescriptions. A doctor gets paid more to prescribe than he does to heal you. Okay. Big Pharma. And in a second we’ll dive into the battle of Big Pharma here, but Big Pharma is a five billion dollar business.

That is daily advertising, daily advertising through commercials, through radio, do visuals, billboards, advertising to us and our children. And it is prepping the next generation to ask for a specific medication, whatever the hottest new drug is. Humira went from nothing to the number one recommended medication on the market place inside of a 12 month period because there were billions of dollars’ worth of marketing going out to the masses every single month. That is insane.

Big pharma ‘missing link’ in the emerging cannabis industry

Molly Rose: Yes. And you know what I want to touch on? That’s very interesting. You highlighted it at the beginning of our conversation. And that is in earliest documentation, about 1913 up until about 1930, cannabis was one of the most prescribed medication. And what’s ironic about it is it wasn’t in the flower form. It was in teashers and topical. It wasn’t until 1930 with other prescription medication companies which now make up what we know is Big Pharma today got into the game.

They realized that people were growing out on their own and were no longer able to buy from them. Also because of immigration had different practices and different functional medicine’s coming over from different cultures, but they put the lock right there on cannabis.

And as we’re talking about commercials and things, we can’t even run ads without experts like you and me getting in the middle of it. The average person cannot run an ad for something that grows out of the ground because that rule from 1930 is still in place.

Sonia Gomez: So that is a perfect segue to say in part two of this interview, you guys were going to be diving deep into explaining how we use this battle with Big Pharma to build successful businesses in this space. And at the end of this interview, you can see the link to get over into part two where we’re talking about all of our business centers through the cannabis space.

But I want to get back to the story about your mom because I think it’s so fascinating and for those of you who are listening right now who are wondering, will this work for me? Is there an answer, or resource, some person that I can get connected to who can help me? Help me understand how I can use cannabis or hemp to manage or work with the condition that you have. I don’t want to say treat, I don’t want to say you are, those are not compliant or realistic words to use, but I can continue to share with you case studies and stories that people just like Molly, myself, her loved ones and family who have successfully used holistic medicines and practices to literally save our own lives and not survive but thrive.

So Molly, take me back to this moment in December where you get this diagnosis, you get the information and confirmation that this is a very specific type of disease. What are your next steps moving forward? Give me the picture of how this looked and what you were up against in the following months.

Teen Fighting for Mom’s Life

Molly Rose: We were all devastated and we were all very confused. So at this time, just to give you a little mindset, we have all of our faith in our doctors and all of our faith in Big Pharma. You know you get cancer, you get chemo, you get better, right? That’s what we’re taught. So we know we’re going to do this. We go in to see the specialist that we finally get a hold-up.

And he say, “Okay, well three months then you’ll be dead. Get your affairs in order, goodbye”. That was that. And I’m about 13 at this time. Right. I’ve just turned 13, I’m in seventh grade and my nose is in a book. Everyone is doing their holiday vacation and my nose is in every book you could ever find, which the information is very hard to find. And I do feel that for any of you listening that are going through the research phase, I know things are hard to read and I know that they put things in big words and make it hard for us to…we have to have the reference, all the time. But don’t give up because there is a light at the other side and you are your own best advocate.

Cannabis as the Holistic Cure Fight Breast Cancer

So I’m going to take you fast forward. We went through numerous surgeries, numerous times that my mom had to be resuscitated or almost had to be resuscitated. There was one instance in particular where they just couldn’t wake her up from anesthesia and I remember one of her friends walking past all of the doctors, just pushing people and actually hitting her to wake her up. So we were going through hell, I’m in and out of school at this point, you know, between trying to manage home life and school life. I’m in and out.

And at this point when we go into doctor’s offices, I’ve got 10 different little binders and I’m giving them the charts as if I was their intern. And I am also interning at a doctor’s office because I want to become a physician at this point. So what we started realizing is like many of you know, the chemo made her sick. The radiation treatments ripped her flesh, made her so sick. And there were numerous people giving us different holistic remedies, but it felt like things were so bad that we couldn’t even deal with them. And cannabis was suggested numerous times. But my mom had a hard time consuming high THC cannabis and I chose to stay away from that for her because I didn’t want another psychoactive. She was already on morphine, both liquid. We were doing it at home, into a PICC line directly into her hearts. You can imagine this mother of young children.

And Oxycontin, I remember the first time we got Oxycontin, she was ripping her skin off thinking that she had a sweater she couldn’t get off. So these are hallucinogenic drugs that they’re prescribing and allowing these people to drive. Plus, you know, Norco every other hour. Vicodin was big at the time. And I’m just watching my poor mom have all of the side effects of these opioids on top of the Chemo and radiation. So years go by and not only does she have to have numerous surgeries for her actual disease, but now she also has to have surgeries and other medications to fix the symptoms of the things that we’re supposed to make her better. The Chemo, the radiation, the opioids, and the other different prescriptions.

I realized everything I needed to know about our medical system and that was they kept giving her things that would fix one problem and caused three more.-Molly Rose Click To Tweet

So I am watching, and this is right about the time that I realized everything I needed to know about our medical system and that was they kept giving her things that would fix one problem and caused three more. So for every one surgery we had, we had to sign up for five or six more. And I realized it wasn’t much different than when you go to your aesthetician or you go to your hair salon and they’ve got a product for everything. You get your service, you get more products, you had to click haircut, you got to get a trim. I felt like I was, and I have a history in the beauty industry.

That was kind of my side job. It allowed me the flexibility to work with my mom and be in and out of school. It was just like what I was doing there. I realized we were going to a business and this business did not have our best interest in mind.

And through my reading and through functional remedies, along with what I had from my family and what I knew about the cannabis market, I was actually having to find Marinol and CBD, which you couldn’t buy at the time. So having to find it on the street and bring that in. So there was a huge, huge risk there in doing that because some insurance companies will keep you off of your insurance.

So all of those other necessary steps that you’re taking with your oncologist was with the other specialists that you now have to see would be completely taken away from her. So we had to be very careful about how we were dosing, but I noticed immediately when we could remove the THC from the equation. In my mom’s case, because he had hormone-based cancer, she was able to find peace.

She was able to eat again and not throw up. She was able to do small things and what we didn’t know because we didn’t have the lab results and someone measuring and testing this for us was how many small things were happening within her body and how much help we were able to see so quickly. The hair regrows the bone density differences.

So it’s been a 15-year journey. They told my mom she had three months and at the time I believe it was two or three years into our battle, we realized the longest living person with this type of cancer had only lived five years. Years later I was able to link up with a company called “Fighting 4 the Tatas“, and they are an inflammatory breast cancer research company and foundation. And I was actually the CMO there for a while and have helped them to grow and we have been able to connect with so many other women and men, Men can get breast cancer, going through this and we’ve seen women live 14, 15, 17 years plus with this disease.

People actually someone at 20 and being able to do the research and find out about different cannabis methods and extractions, CBN and CBD, different fido-cannabinoids and bring those in has completely revolutionized the game completely. I am so blessed to be able to sit here with my mom right now and she’s here. But what I do want to say is I watched all of those drugs take a toll on her body and on her mind. If we had seen and we had access to micro-dosing if we had access to more functional medicine and cannabis back then we would have shortcutted 15 surgeries and years of, I mean she’s had to have all of their teeth replaced because of the chemotherapy.

And because of the opiates you’ve, it would’ve come, it would’ve allowed me to go to high school. That would have allowed me to finish college. It would have allowed all of us to have family vacations instead of sending holidays in the hospital. So having that out to other people, if I can change other people’s lives, that is why I do everything I do. I’m going to get choked up cause we’re talking about it.

Sonia Gomez: It’s okay. You’re crying girl because I mean, let’s just talk about that. First of all, that is an incredible story and I know that both you and I, are consistently inundated with a major influx of these types of stories on a daily basis. Every single day. just as a result of the work that we do, there are people contacting us and letting us know and sharing like, here’s my results, here’s what I was able, they want us, because we’re spokespeople, they want us to have access to the information and experiences that they’re having. So we have these types of stories all the time. And although it is a beautiful, wonderful refreshing thing to be able to celebrate the lives that are saved. It’s almost bitter-sweet to think like look at how much time and energy and resources were spent and the lives that were lost. And that is what makes me so frustrated and what makes me put on my armor every day.

The Fight Against Big Pharma

And, you’re up to Big Pharma to fight this battle. It’s not for me or the people’s lives who have been won, but for those who are still fighting it out and in areas of the country or world where this information is not so accessible. Where there is not people and places you know, around the corner or across the state line where you can gain access to this type of stuff. I mean people’s lives are changing every single day.

Medical refugee movement where people are leaving, you know, lineages of land in community only to move into a legal state because their child are having hundreds of seizures a day or, you know, looking at farmers who have been cultivating artisan product and, and really high level product for the consumer and are all of a sudden losing their health, their wealth, their freedom, you know, being thrown into jail and we’re having to see their family go into ruins over, over this plant and it’s absolutely disgusting and it’s disturbing.

Holistic Medicine as an Alternative or as a Combination

Talk to me about the stuff that you came up against when introducing this holistic medicine as an alternative or as a combination that you wanted to use with the other medicines that the doctors were recommending.

Molly Rose: It was terrifying. It was the most terrifying thing I could ever explain to you because I was so young. Keep in mind at this point, you know, I’m not 18 years, so being able to speak on it, you’re terrified because it’s illegal. So we’re talking about an illegal substance that I’m procuring, cause you’d have to admit that you were procuring it and then that you’re giving it so you could lose your…

Sonia Gomez: And you’re a minor.

Molly Rose: And I’m a minor. So then could my parents get in trouble? Could I end up getting myself or simply in foster care? And you know, that’s the segue that I’d love to talk about in just a moment is that system.

But I was surprised I had to really pick my battles and I chose to also come at it from an herbal standpoint and talk about others essential oils and use cannabis and a lot of CBD cannabidiol as an essential oil more so than talking about full hemp. Like I said, in her particular case, it is hormone-based cancer. So using a high THC is not recommended. There are not enough studies on it.

However, the studies I have seen, it hasn’t worked out very well, so I just stayed away completely. But there were doctors who are willing to listen to the Marc essential oil arguments and they looked at it as a compliment. What I would love to have seen was talking about using it as a pain management tool.

That’s something we haven’t talked too much about as an overall healthcare system or as the system. It lowers blood pressure, things of that nature. So not just as pain management or for psychoactive or intoxicating properties, but talking about the endocannabinoid system as a whole and where our receptors in our body are.

And what exact fido-cannabinoids, I can’t talk today, connect to what receptors. And so we can actually extract that particular molecule and give it right to the patient to fix that thing. If it’s a stomach problem, you know, we use something very different than if we’re talking about neuropathy. So I would love to see that happen.

But with the opioid crisis and what’s going on there. I had somebody asked me recently and you’ll enjoy and agree with this, is I was concerned about the longevity of money in cannabis.

And he said, what I’d like to see and how I would like to get paid is by watching the number of children in foster care due to parents getting hooked on prescription medication lower. That’s the number that I want to see, now my paycheck that number. As well as the number of people who have had to bury a parent or in worst cases a child.

Giving your parent cannabis not so frowned upon, giving your baby cannabis? It’s not something that we’ve gotten to a point yet that we can talk about. It’s something that if you go into your doctor and explain that you could be in jail the next day in certain places.

Sonia Gomez: Oh yeah, no, they’ll. Even here in Colorado like, you are a parent and this is why I chose to do more of a holistic birth and as I was going through my pregnancy, I went into the hospital. Let me just to speak to this kid thing.

Molly Rose: Yeah.

Sonia Gomez: I have four kids. I’m a mother of four. Three are my step kids. I’ve been a part of raising them since they were since the youngest one was born basically. And our natural instinct is to treat them holistically through nutrition, essential oils, natural supplements, so on and so forth. When I finally had my own belly baby, baby number four, I went into the hospital and there was this whole line of paperwork that I had to fill out. Where they were explaining to me there, you know, the procedures that they would go through, the things that they would be looking for. But then in this very small, you know, small prints, a small section of the is on your birthday, right? The date that you give birth, what will happen to the baby once it’s born and they test the mother for, for drugs and they test the baby for drugs.

So if I chose to use cannabis to manage my nausea or any, you know, help me sleep or alleviate pain, and it was traceable in my system that would be feeding into the baby’s bloodstream and be deemed as a threat to the baby’s life. But putting the child in danger and putting me in the hands of CPS and the system and putting me in jail before the baby was even born. Now I’m a cannabis user. I’m a cannabis advocate. There’s THC in my blood. I am, I’m kind of squishy, you know like I’m not… I got some meat on my bone.

So there’s no way in God’s Green Acre that you’re not going to find THC if you swab me. Okay. Like it’s staying in my system. I have enough THC in my hair until the day that I die. So you try and test me for cannabis is, I’m guilty. Guilty as charged. Okay. I use it. I love it. I’m an advocate for it. And my kids, they are educated about it. They understand it as a medicine. But my baby girl, you know, would not have any of it trace, but because they could trace it in my blood, it’ll put her at risk to being a part of the system. Very fucked up.

So I decided to go with my midwife and it was such an empowering experience because I was one of those girls who have the most horrible pregnancy ever. I was sick every day, throwing up 18 to 20 times a day. Sleeping at the base of my toilet because I was getting sick so often.

On bed-rest with, I mean, you name it, I have the complications and I used cannabis to alleviate a lot of those symptoms topically. Nutritionally, as you know, hemp as a part of my daily supplement and intake. And I firmly believe that when I could eat it, was because I was using cannabis. That when I did hold food down, it was because of cannabis.

That when I did go into labor, I know it was using cannabis topically that’s why I had such an easy, stress-free , virtually, you know, I don’t want to say painless, but you’re very relaxed birthing experience. Now the system that tries to take the power away from the mother and the child in their natural setting and flow, awful. And I want to just speak for a second and to relate to the story that you told about, you know, going through several, several specialists and really being overprescribed and how one medication gave you three more symptoms that you have to treat. And how that really turned, got me walked into that system. I was a healthy, thriving teenage girl who hurt herself doing the things that I love the mo…I hurt myself surfing, one of the things that I loved the most.

And it triggered this whole symptom inside of…series of symptoms that were like seizures, neuropathy, severe muscle cramps. I mean, my entire body would coil and cramp and, and start like seizing. I’d be like, you know, twitching. And the only thing different between a seizure and the, what I was experience was the fact that I could still verbally communicate. So it was like these body convulsions and you know, sleep paralysis and all of these horrible things. And it was never, the most painful part for me was not the actual symptoms or syndrome. The most painful part for me was, and this is going to make me cry it does every time…

Molly Rose: You’re going to make me cry too.

Sonia Gomez: Was watching what my illness did to my family. All of a sudden being the oldest of three, my mom’s focus shifted from our family to me and my sister has got the short end of the stick. I was, they couldn’t do certain things or go to certain places or experienced certain things because of me. And so I started to feel guilty and depressed and ashamed and started to think about ways to end my own life because I was such a, I felt like I was such a burden on my family.

And we spent years, I watched my moms, you know, mental and physical and emotional health spiral as she adopted this by any means necessary type warrior, you know, mentality where she wouldn’t take no for an answer. And she missed days of work and lost her job and you know, quit college when she was trying to further her education and better herself. She quit all of that and put herself aside to fight for me.

And I hear that same type of thing happening in your family when you were such a young girl and it’s so confusing and frustrating to have a 100% of your faith in a system that is not built to serve you. And I went through tens of thousands of hours of medication, tens of thousands of hours of experimental testing and traditional testing and anything that they would throw at me. Injecting and filling my body full of dyes and medications that would, were bleeding the life out of me.

And at the peak of my illness, I was a hundred pounds overweight on seven different medications, stuff to wake me up and put me to sleep. And I just, every day that I looked at myself, it was a darker and darker image of the girl that I once knew and loved. And I remember like it was yesterday. I finally got in touch with the holistic neurologist who sat me down and listens to me talk about not sleeping, not eating, not being active, you know, not wanting to participate in things that would otherwise make me happy. And he stopped me before I even got to the pain stuff and said, “Sonia, if you can’t sleep, if you can’t rest, you can’t recover”.

Molly Rose: Right.

Sonia Gomez: And he introduced me to cannabis and not just like the cannabis that you want to smoke and like, you know, consume at a concert. It was the cannabis that would nourish my endocannabinoid system. And he introduced me to that. Here’s your endocannabinoid system, guess what, It’s in everybody and everybody needs to know this. And at one point, history allowed for our nutrition to deliver cannabinoids. And you know, this was all a natural thing, but now you have to do it manually. So he talked to me about strain selection, micro-dosing. How to use fido-cannabinoids to nourish yourself. How to, you know, do strain selection in a way that would, you know, serve me during the day and in the evening time.

Molly Rose: That is so important,

Sonia Gomez: I know. It’s so crazy. And so I’m listening to you tell your story and I’m like, oh my God, I can relate to this so deeply and I haven’t really heard somebody with the knowledge and experience to be able to break it down like that. So it’s super interesting to hear you say all of that stuff cause I’m just like fucking Ah, yes!

Like this is the information that actually made available because without it we are continuing to lose the battle to Big Pharma and this is a battle that both you and I have won against both the legal and the medical system.

You do not have to be a victim of either one. You have to become self-aware and care enough to do the research and get educated yourself in order to find the answers that you need and want for your own well-being.

Social Stigmas Are Holding Back the Legalization of Marijuana

Molly Rose: I could not agree with you more. That fight is so important. And to segue into insurance, just a hair. I think one thing that keeps people from fighting is the fact that you’ve got to work in order to maintain that insurance for yourself or for the spouse or whoever it is. I know that for us, my dad having to keep that job and work overtime to afford all of the extra things that were coming in made it so that he, the other adults could not be there and fight. And so being your own advocate or finding an advocate is so important and there are centers all over the world that there are people like myself, like yourself who are there too. I will take you to a doctor’s appointment.

I have volunteered in our groups that we run numerous times to just, I will go, I will yell for you. I will be your backbone. And have you noticed as you’ve become a cannabis advocate and health advocates, you find yourself almost becoming an advisor as well? But it’s very interesting to me now, and I’m sure you’ll have this exact same story.

When someone gets hurt or they’re going through a high blood pressure situation or maybe something more serious, they will call and they will ask, “Hey, what’s the herb for this?, or, “Can cannabis helped me with that?”, or, “What strain do I need?” Can I have an extraction because I am going to need a low THC or no THC because of my job? How can I do it? What’s the best way to ingest it? And next thing I know, I’m at someone’s house going through their pantry, pulling white sugar, pulling stuff off the shelf, buying herbs and I’m like, “Okay”. Have you noticed, have you noticed that nutrition has become a very huge part of your life as well?

Sonia Gomez: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, here’s, here’s the secret that nobody wants to tell. CBD and cannabis, it’s all becoming this huge marketable buzzword, right? Everybody wants to be a part of the green rush. Everybody wants to be a part of the industry. There are few and far between or actually, you know, what we call a part of the brotherhood. People who have pioneered this industry.

People who have true stories and understanding of the the nuances of, of being effective in this treatment. And we are really fortunate to be tied into that inner circle of practitioners and patients who are self-taught and you know, scientists and doctors who are globally working to showcase the results that are possible when utilizing this plant. Oh, we introduce a concept.

I developed a whole training called the Natural Health Coach Certification around this concept. The multi-pronged approach. If you are taking cannabis and expecting it to heal your, you know, gout or your diabetes or your rheumatoid arthritis, or an autoimmune condition, and you’re using cannabis, you’re smoking it, you’re doing dabs, you’ve, you got an awesome flower. But then like you’re on your way home, you got some munchies and you roll through McDonald’s or Burger King on the way.

Or perhaps stops on Benito footlongs, Subway sandwich, or grab some KFC to, for a quick fix like, listen, honey, Dominoes, McDonald’s, these fucking, would you have Boston market? Like that shit is not going to help you keep, cannabis is not going to heal the damage that is done from a daily Starbucks and a fucking doughnut. Okay, my friend. Like you can’t fix years and years of bad habits with smoking a bowl and taken some tincture like it is something that you have to become really hyper-aware of. It’s like what am I doing on a daily basis that is nourishing my ability to thrive? That is the name of the game here.

We are living organisms and we have to be nourished so that we can thrive and cannabis, and fido-cannabinoids, and hemp, and CBD, and CBN, and all of this stuff that is being shoved down their throats right now is marketing buzzwords. Yes, it’s all true. And if you’re not doing things to nourish the mind, your body, your spirit working through the emotional shit and baggage that all of us are carrying around, you might as well if I can stop smoking weed today, if you’re not willing to address the other stuff. You know like it might make you feel good for a little while, but so does crack cocaine, does that make it right? No! You got to, really got to figure it out.

Molly Rose: Honestly, I look in my own house to big box food companies and Big Pharma under one umbrella. Some of the money is transferred back and forth and we’ll not go into the specifics.

But it is one general umbrella when it comes to lawmakers and what is and isn’t allowed. If you guys take a second to read your box of cereal right now and Google each ingredient and then Google some household components that are in there and then compare it to a plant that you can grow in your backyard.

The stigma is not about what’s in the bottle or what’s in the plant or what’s in the box of cereal. The stigma is about legalization. Stigma’s about money, not ingredients.

The stigma is about legalization. Stigma's about money, not ingredients.-Molly Rose Click To Tweet

Sonia Gomez: Yup. And that’s the battle that we’re all up against right now. So when we talk about the battle of Big Pharma and how we’re fighting to save our own lives, it really comes back to the self-aware care. If you are not nourishing your mind daily with real information and you know, working to be in a transfer’ in transformation mode, right? Like every single season, your body is changing and shifting and you have to be in tune with that rhythm.

You have to catch your rhythm and what you put in your body is what’s going to come out of your body. Whether it’s, you know, cancer or poop or bar for sweat or whatever it is like it’s coming. It’s moving through you in one way or another. So you, you have to make sure that that is just at the highest quality that you can have access to.

You know, I wanted to say that even though I was raised in an environment and in a, in a family space where holistic medicine was king plant medicines, you know, whether it was cannabis or cactus or you know, whatever it was, my family was all about the holistic, holistic approach to health and wellbeing.

And even in that wholly immersed culture and belief system, it wasn’t until my own pain and suffering was so severe and that this doc, this particular doctor with this specialized knowledge gave me this routine to follow. Did I become responsible for what I was doing and how I was doing it? And so I encourage all of you guys, you know, here are some of my results. And Molly shared the results that her mom and family were able to celebrate.

After three months of following this regime, I had reduced all of my medications down to one. After six months, I had eliminated all over the counter and prescription medications. After nine months, I lost a hundred pounds and after 12 months I was completely back to normal. Okay?

So it is possible for you to thrive. It is possible for you to heal. It is possible for you to, you know, make a safe and sustainable transition from, you know, this, this medical system that is enslaving you with an addicting you to the process and procedures. It’s possible for you to make a sustainable jump and transition, but it is impossible for you to do it solely with cannabis and hemp.

You have to be committed to total body wellness. Molly, as we segue here into our part two of this interview, can you share with me some of the impactful stories or what is your why? Like as you are working with all these incredible people.

As you have come through, you know, this battle with your own family and as you are becoming a community liaison and support system and pillar, really, in this industry for both health and business. What is the thing that you are most committed to every single day, the thing that wakes you up and gets you out of bed to do what you do?

Goals that set your soul on FIRE!

Molly Rose: So it’s two-fold and the most important one. Anyone who’s ever spent five minutes with me knows. I jump out of bed on fire because my goal every day is to throw a brick through our system and shatter it.

It’s broken and we need to work together to rebuild it. There is so much good in our current system and so much brilliant and innovation. And there’s so much that we left behind in search of progress and in search of financial wellbeing.

The one thing that if I could leave every person listening is to break the cycle. We are getting hooked on fast options in our food. We’re not reading and we’re not being given the information we need. So there’s a lack of understanding on how to find reputable information. I know a lot of people, I was just on phone with my grandmother last night, I read this great article she was telling me all about it.

Check your sources, learn how to check reputable sources. That’s number one. Find out what you’re reading and who you’re reading it from. That is a huge thing for me is putting out good information. Being a content marketer. The second is, we’re in this circle. We eat bad food, it makes us sick. We get hooked on medication. We eat more bad food, the medication makes this sicker.

From there we become in this wheel and we don’t get out of the hamster wheel. We’ve become a perfect customer. So that is my number one battle. My second is, of course, like I said a little bit earlier, it’s to help every single person like myself, like my mother, to bring hope. I have one client who I adore dearly. Who went through a very similar story to mine, but unfortunately his mom did not survive.

And so they’re why in their business is to just like me, to make it so no one else has to deal with that burden again. And also to make it so that people should have access to options. You don’t have to use cannabis.

But you should be allowed to. There is a safe option out there and we should all have access and openness to it. We should understand what it does and release that stigma so that we can start research. We can’t do medical trials right now in so many places. We went to Senate last year actually to get a national day made for inflammatory breast cancer so that we could start some clinical trials and in working with UCLA, we’re not able to bring cannabis into those trials yet.

So that is a huge thing for me is to find cures and define functional answers for every single person, whether it’s your paper-cut or old tennis injury or it’s life or death.

Sonia Gomez: Absolutely, love it. One of the things I love about being in this space as we, we also have a very similar mission, many of which you guys are a part of. It is our mission. I will say ours cause Molly and I are… It’s our mission to bring the truth about cannabis and hemp. Other natural remedies that can transform the way that you feel and function on a daily basis into the light for so long.

For whatever reason we have this, this and this type of approach, this type of medicine, I won’t just make it exclusive to cannabis, but this type of approach to health and well-being has been put into a stigma that is so negative. And we have been having to fight every single day for our rights to safe and legal access to medicines just like this.

Every single one of us deserves to have the option on how we want to choose to treat ourselves. The people that we love, conditions that we may be suffering from, but also get the opportunity that we want and need to thrive instead of just survive. The system is built to keep you trapped and we have to find the key to get out of that system that is locking us into a specific result. Listen, every single one of us is going to die, but it’s not about when we’re going to die, but how we are going to live.

All of us are living in this moment and we get to choose or whether we’re going to survive or thrive in this gift of life and it really is the present that you are in is a gift and you have to be conscious about how you’re living in this present moment every single day.

So make sure that you tune in and check out more episodes of On The Rise podcast where we’re featuring more incredible entrepreneurs and health stories. Just like Molly Rose. We are going to be doing a part two segment of this interview to talk about how we have leveraged the knowledge and experience that we have had to build multiple six-figure businesses in this space.

And for those of you who are considering joining the green rush through either a health advocate or a business advocate, we’re going to want to tune into this next episode because we are going to be sharing with you some key secrets that you need to know to succeed in this space, both as an advocate and as a business professional. Molly, where can people find you to get more information.

Molly Rose: The best place to find me actually is on Facebook and it’s just @mollyrose. My website also is mollyrosemedia.com/home.

Sonia Gomez: Awesome. So excited you guys, checkout @mollyrose on Facebook or mollyrosemedia.com/home. Check her out if you guys want more information, good friend, excellent advocate, and a resource inside of this industry, known as the “Queen of Cannabis”. Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of On The Rise, and we’ll see you guys in part two of this interview. See you guys soon. Bye.

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